ABC News presenter in fiery clash with Joe Rogan in dispute over Covid causing a serious illness more often than vaccines
- Australian news identity Josh Szeps wins an on-air dust-up with Joe Rogan
- The American podcaster claimed boys can get heart inflammation after a jab
- Szeps countered that myocarditis risks are worse with Covid than post-jab
An Australian news host has stared down a challenge from Joe Rogan over wild claims a rare heart condition is related to vaccines on the American’s hugely popular podcast.
Josh Szeps, ABC Weekend breakfast news presenter who is known in the United States as a former host of Huff Post Live, disputed Rogan’s claim that boys who receive a Covid jab had a higher risk of heart inflammation.
The Aussie guest was proved right on the influential show, which is downloaded 190 million times a month, and the pair’s feisty exchange went viral in an online clip.
Australian news host Josh Szeps has stared down a challenge from Joe Rogan over a rare Covid-related illness on the American’s hugely popular podcast
The Aussie guest was proved right on the influential show, which is downloaded 190 million times a month, and the pair’s feisty exchange went viral in an online clip
Szeps rejected Rogan’s claim, saying boys were ‘about eight times more likely’ to get myocarditis after a Covid infection than after a Covid vaccine.
‘I don’t think that’s true,’ Rogan, the podcaster and UFC commentator said.
‘It is,’ Szeps replied.
‘No, no, no, I don’t think it’s true,’ Rogan said.
‘That there’s an increased risk of myocarditis from people catching Covid that are young versus increased risk of myocarditis from the vaccine.’
‘No there is,’ Szeps again shot back.
Rogan’s producers attempted to put Szeps on the spot, fact-checking him by bringing up a New Scientist article on screen.
It backed up the Aussie – who has sparred with Rogan previously on his show.
The article quoted a study that claimed heart inflammation is six times more likely to occur after catching Covid than it is after having the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines.
Szeps later took to social media to deny he had ‘shut down’ Rogan.
‘I hope readers realise that Rogan enjoys this kind of pushback. I hardly “shut him down”. He’s a big boy,’ Szeps said.
American podcaster Joe Rogan (pictured) has branded Australia’s lockdown laws as ‘crazy s***’ as he mocked the use of the military and police helicopters to enforce restrictions
Rogan is considered a hero to many wary of mainstream media around the world, especially to males under 40.
But he has also been widely accused of peddling misinformation about Covid-19 vaccines.
Szeps also spoke about alien invasions during the three-hour podcast, which was released on Thursday Australian time.
He was known as Josh Zepps in the US after changing his name there to avoid confusion for American audiences but Rogan promoted him for his latest episode by his Australian surname.
Rogan previously branded Australia’s lockdown laws ‘crazy s**t’ and mocked the use of police helicopters and the military to enforce restrictions.
WHY VACCINES ARE IMPORTANT
Immunisation is a simple, safe and effective way of protecting people against harmful diseases before they come into contact with them.
Immunisation not only protects individuals, but also others in the community, by reducing the spread of preventable diseases.
Research and testing is an essential part of developing safe and effective vaccines.
In Australia, vaccines must pass strict safety testing before the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) will register them for use. Approval of vaccines can take up to 10 years.
Before vaccines become available to the public, large clinical trials test them on thousands of people.
High-quality studies over many years have compared the health of large numbers of vaccinated and unvaccinated children. Medical information from nearly 1.5 million children around the world have confirmed that vaccination does not cause autism.
People first became concerned about autism and immunisation after the medical journal The Lancet published a paper in 1998. This paper claimed there was a link between the measles, mumps, rubella (MMR) vaccine and autism. Since then, scientists have completely discredited this paper. The Lancet withdrew it in 2010 and printed an apology. The UK’s General Medical Council struck the author off the medical register for misconduct and dishonesty.
Source: Australian Department of Health